I do get that, but then the user chooses a new relay when that becomes an issue, just like I will and everyone that's in this boat. I happen to have been using the same relays for maybe 3.5 years now... That's a users choice.
It is quite literally a trade off between convenience and privacy/security. That just needs to be on the label. Nostr _works_ with or without outbox, that's not a requirement nor is it _the_ spec.
Besides that, honestly the spam is the worst part. Relays go through great lengths to suppress slop, garbage, porn and other nasties for a single open relay to ruin the feed without my choice. Relays are doing work for clients if a user chooses. I don't use a smart phone, but even for web clients the only way I can suppress the garbage is to create firewall, dns, or ublock filters, which is fucking asinine imo.
We have relay lists, some of use keep them up to date. Obviously I have no stake in amethyst or how you choose to do it, but I don't think it's right to tell users "Thats h how nostr works" when your omitting the truth.
ChipTuner
npub1qd…3fqm7
2026-09-07 15:13:31 UTC
in reply to nevent1q…wc3d
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2026-09-07 15:13:31 UTCEvent JSON
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