1. I tried to earnestly understand and explore Luke Dashjr (npub1lh2…a9nk) Luke Dashjr (npub1lh2…a9nk) and Super Testnet (npub1yxp…399s)’s arguments.
With Luke I just have to say “agree to disagree” when he argues that CSAM is _only_ illegal/immoral when it’s in an OP_RETURN up ‘till 100kb post-September 2025— everything else is “non-CSAM” in his view even if they’re the exact same bytes.
Super Testnet meanwhile seems to have gotten stuck on this question: nostr:nevent1qqszr45wevkva76m7ypmaklmj7wq35h8g3g0a0zcpdmf6zemzlj63pgpp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqzyr5dvlzrtf99jvzwzs2zsr549mlp00jz2n72y7gkha3lnae72j46gqcyqqqqqqg8vjxqn
2. It was never about Citrea specifically; Citrea just showed that there is demand for >80 bytes of data, and if such use cases can’t use OP_RETURN they’ll just use fake pubkeys which NO ONE should want.
3. Not a technical argument. But I’d say if anyone uses nasty triggers it’s Luke et al claiming (and this is a real quote) “Bitcoin Core is trying to force everyone who uses Bitcoin to distribute child porn”— not to mention the shit you’re throwing at the wall here yourself.
Aaron van Wirdum
npub1ar…pm0w5
2025-11-04 13:04:50 UTC
in reply to nevent1q…f8ec
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